Oppos to the rescue. New car challenge

"R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet" (r-saldana) 12/10/2014 at 10:10 • Filed to: None

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Ok, here is the scenario, and it is a real one. I will be purchasing a most likely brand new vehicle to replace Jazzie the Disco. The wife has said that I will be permitted to purchase another Land Rover some day down the road, but the time has come to put us into something reliable and sensible.

So here are my stipulations:

1. It must be at or under $40,ooo

2. It must be a "luxury-type" vehicle.

3. IT MUST HAVE A NICE LIVEABLE INTERIOR. (This almost automatically eliminates Toyota products.)

4. It must have leather and heated seats.

5. We do not want FWD, we very much prefer RWD but AWD is acceptible.

6. If it is used, it must: have very low mileage

be very reliable

be eligible for very good long term warranty coverage

7. It must be reasonably fun to drive and comfortable for 4-5 hour+ road trips.

8. Color options are as follows: Black, Silver, or possibly some kind of deep blue

I have previously suggested the 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar, but alas it was viewed as ugly by my better half. No big deal, to each their own. But at least she doesn't want an Audi anymore. This vehicle can be either foreign or domestic, but I have to clarify that it must be reliable, reasonably fun, useful, and a nice place to be for extended periods of time.

NO TAHOES/YUKONS/SUBURBANS/EXPEDITIONS/or any other gigantic suburban mama-assault vehicle.

NO two car situations. One vehicle only, none of this impractical track day miata and toyota camry bulshit either.

Funktheduck > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:14

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Nissan versa note. I'm pretty sure it checks all your boxes. You're welcome.

Bandit > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:15

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"Color options are as follows: Black, Silver, or possibly some kind of deep blue" So boring! Get some oranges or reds in there!

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:15

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reliable and sensible

Have you looked at the Equus? Hyundai Genesis drivetrain, so not particularly pricey to keep up.

Tripper > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:17

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A slightly used 3 series wagon might fit the bill.

Brian Silvestro > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:18

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STi.

Golf R.

S3.

Jaguar XE.

Why does it have to be new!?

spanfucker retire bitch > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:18

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Honestly, I've heard that the Fusions are pretty fun to drive, and the Titanium level has AWD as an option. Heated seats, even a heated steering wheel.

And if the average performance isn't quite enough, you can ECU tune that mother. You can basically max out a Fusion at under 40K with still a very nice interior and more room than a Taurus.

CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) > Tripper 12/10/2014 at 10:19

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yep. 335i wagon...twin turbo'ed goodness

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Bandit 12/10/2014 at 10:20

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It will be the wife's car and I will probably only drive it on long trips. I will just keep pluggin miles away in the nissan d21. 239k and counting

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:22

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ATS coupe with the V6 . Like an eldorado, only it doesn't suck to drive. Still softer than the smaller engined models and an equivalent 3-series, but you look KILLER doing it.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:22

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A long history of age + miles leading to repair bills on the Disco has left his wife with an "avoid issues with old car by driving new" complex.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 12/10/2014 at 10:22

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I will shoot those by her.

I know, I know. but what with the shitty job market and not-my-student-loans to pay off and the need to save for our future, I can't keep spending 2-3k a year on a paid off land rover. And this purchase can aid in our home buying process in the future, because for some reason you ave to be in debt to take on more debt. <—-Fucking stupid

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > spanfucker retire bitch 12/10/2014 at 10:23

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Interesting, I have been trying to get her to consider Ford products. Namely the Flex

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Funktheduck 12/10/2014 at 10:23

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No. No leather interior, not a fun car to drive, has a cvt GTFO

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:24

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2013 Lincoln MKS Ecoboost 3.5L

http://cpo.lincoln.com/Details?VIN=1L…

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:25

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FORD EDGE SPORT!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:25

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Because it will hopefully be something that lasts 10 years in our ownership. I did not necessaily say new, but it must be super low mileage <20k if it is used.

And to the Jaguar —— no. In a perfect world absolutely but I will not willingly have a British/European car as my DD ever again.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Tripper 12/10/2014 at 10:25

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Maintenance probability is too high.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:26

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Are kids part of the equation at all? Are a third row of seats needed?

I see some 2014 Acura TLs for sale around by me. SH-AWD and all that.

Brian Silvestro > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 12/10/2014 at 10:26

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Sounds like my dad...ugh

Brian Silvestro > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:27

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But what about all of my other suggestions

Nibbles > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:28

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Charger R/T

A fully loaded R/T Road and Track barely ticks in at $40k; that's quite a lot of car for the price.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:29

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Is that AUdi S3?

Basically, she wants to avoid anything with typically high cost maintenance: No MB, no BMW, No Audi.

She does like Volvo's track record for not being cars that are always being worked on. I guess I could show her the STi, she does drive stick, but I am not crazy about how that car looks. Maybe the last gen hatchback model but now they just look like a Toyota Avalon.

Tripper > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:30

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...so you're looking for a Japanese car?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 12/10/2014 at 10:30

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I think the sedan looks better, what is my total price before tax?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 12/10/2014 at 10:31

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I sold one of these to my Brother in law and his wife last year. They love it. Although she did already get into an accident. Crazy Memphis drivers.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 12/10/2014 at 10:31

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I briefly showed her these last night, but we did not discuss them at all.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR 12/10/2014 at 10:32

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No kids yet, but this could be a thing later on. She suggested a sedan at the onset of this scenario, I countered with wagon.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Tripper 12/10/2014 at 10:33

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No, just something that doesn't have bespoke tools and $500 drop shipping fees for parts when they aren't in stock. And generally something that will age well.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:33

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The Acura MDX has the same engine and SH-AWD for around the same price as the TL. The MDXs are sleepers man. Really quick cars.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR 12/10/2014 at 10:34

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I sold one last year with the tech package and the red leather interior, it was super nice.

Brian Silvestro > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:35

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V60 Polestar

Cadillac CTS

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:37

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Did you even read my whole post?

I want the V60 polestar she thinks it is ugly, as well as the Ford Flex ecoboost which I think is the absolute perfect vehicle for a young family.

She doesn't like the CTS, have showed her the wagon many times in different colors.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:37

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You can get it with a manual.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 12/10/2014 at 10:38

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^exactly. And also when I start working on the oil rigs I won;t really be able to resolve the maintenance issues that sometimes plague a daily driver.

Someday I will have my diesal manual defender 110 overland rig though

Sweet Trav > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:38

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2013 MKS - AWD Ecoboost 3.5l.

Eight-Thousand Miles - 26K

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/…

nermal > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:38

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How about a new Tiguan? If you go for the R-line, the interior looks just like a GTI, including the sweet steering wheel.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Bandit 12/10/2014 at 10:39

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Also my land rover is the rarest of color options form the factory: Monte Carlo blue. Less than 500 built

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > nermal 12/10/2014 at 10:40

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I had no even considered VW. What does a Golf R 4-door run?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Nibbles 12/10/2014 at 10:41

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I'm not an American car fan, neither is she, and also these tend to be driven by low class people where we come from Memphis. It is a stigma I know but one that is not shaken hardly at all.

Brian Silvestro > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:41

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I did, but I ignored it. I'm talking about a new CTS. I thought we were talking new cars??

WAIT...TAURUS SHO

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:42

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NO TAHOES/YUKONS/SUBURBANS/EXPEDITIONS/or any other gigantic suburban mama-assault vehicle.

But what if it's supercharged ?

As for a real suggestion, I know you said no Toyota products but my girlfriend's brother has an AWD Lexus IS 350 and, as a huge BMW guy, I really like it. I drove it for 2 1/2+ hours once and it was a very nice place to be the entire time. And I drove my girlfriend's 2012 RX 450h from Charleston, SC to Connecticut (13 hours+ with traffic) and i was impressed with how much better it was than her old one. Lexus has seriously stepped its game up with their interiors. Plus a brand new IS 250 F Sport (RWD) or IS 350 (RWD) is right at your price point ($40,135). You don't have to add much to those cars, but nav and a premium sound system are available.

Plus I like the F Sport's grill. I know, I know. Some people think it's controversial, but I like it.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:43

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2015 Golf Sportwagen TDI 4Motion?

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:44

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Right I forgot they just changed them up a bit. I need to see it again and what will it cost reasonably spec'd out (not the V model, we want to stay at or below 40k) before taxes.

nermal > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:44

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The new Golf Rs should be under $40k, but you'll need to wait for them, and probably end up paying MSRP if you want something new. Last-gen ones will be all over the place as far as price and quality.

I have a GTI, would not really recommend for a road trip car. It's doable, but really long highway runs are not the car's bright spot. The interior is fine, but the suspension tuning is a bit too stiff. The Tiguan is basically a lifted version, and will be a bit softer and more comfortable for longer drives.

Plus the VW blue really stands out in the sea of beige and black and silver cars elsewhere.

spanfucker retire bitch > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:44

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You could also maybe look at the Hyundai Genesis itself. The new ones are very nice, inside and out. A maxxed out V6 is just about 50 grand, so you should be able to option delete some shit to get it under 40K.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:44

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Also, I had a taurus platinum as a rental when I was interviewing in Nashville, not bad. Knd of floaty but not bad at all.

Brian Silvestro > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:44

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TAURUS SHO

Sweet Trav > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:45

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Flex Ecoboost!

I have Fusion and love it, but the goodyear LS2 tires on the upper trims suck in the winter, recommend winter tires if you get one.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:46

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Ah, low 40s apparently for a V6. The turbo 2.0 will be mid to high 30s.

Sweet Trav > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:47

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with the depreciation of Lincolns, you can get some wicked deals, and parts are cheap because rebadged ford with a slightly nicer interior.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 12/10/2014 at 10:47

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Thanks for he genuine suggestion. i personally don't care for their new design language (but I believe the RC coupe looks better than the BMW 4-series coupes) but I can she what she thinks. My parents have a later model RX Lexus and they pretty much love it. It's pretty boring though IMHO.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Brian Silvestro 12/10/2014 at 10:48

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Is this one of those reddit replies?

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Brian Silvestro > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:48

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unns unns unns unns

MELON BALLER UP MY ASS

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Sweet Trav 12/10/2014 at 10:49

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I love the Flex but she hates it and calls it ugly.

How can you hate a car that the 3rd row has the same legroom as the driver and passenger?

SMDH

Anon > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:50

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BMW X1!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 12/10/2014 at 10:50

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Interesting, I will genuinely propose this. But in sedan form, dog must sit in the back seat and space for trips to Lowes. And I have big guy problems like marshall from HIMYM

Yossarian > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:52

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If you're looking used and want a BMW check out BMW CPO. They have warranties better than new, and cover up to 100,000 miles. We bought a then 2 year old 2008 750i for half of MSRP and that warranty was amazing for the car. BMW is great when it comes to handling warranty work as well plus it covers maintenance.

Or a new 328i is a great option. Very nice interior, and the 2.0T is a great engine especially with the ZF 8 speed.

Or if you want a Japanese car the new Acura TLX is really a great choice. 40k will get you one absolutely fully loaded. AWD, V6, 9speed auto.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Sweet Trav 12/10/2014 at 10:52

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Lincolns

Volvos

Cadillac ATS-Sedan and possibly CTS sedan

Ford Flex

Ford EDGE

Acura MDX

I'm starting to get a good list of finalists.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 12/10/2014 at 10:55

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I'm listening....

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Anon 12/10/2014 at 10:56

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No BMW.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:56

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Actually, the CTS can be had with a V6 for a mid-40s price if you need a bigger sedan. They have 8000$ cash back and you can probably haggle a bit more to free up some cash for options and whatnot. Or just look for one on the lot. It's stretching your budget a bit, but the CTS is a very nice sedan and, in my opinion, one of the best looking sedans on the market.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Yossarian 12/10/2014 at 10:56

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No BMW.

Nibbles > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 10:56

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That's too bad, the 2015 is a very nice car.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 12/10/2014 at 10:56

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FWD GTFO

Stupidru > CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist) 12/10/2014 at 10:59

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They made 335i wagons? Interesting...

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:00

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Get one in Tornado Red!

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/volkswage…

http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-volks…

Sweet Trav > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:02

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It's just ugly enough to end up in my driveway. It's kind of a cool simple, kind of ugly utilitarian design, like a Jeep Wrangler.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:02

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No problem! Lexus also has the best customer service I've ever encountered. My girlfriend's RX needed some maintenance so she called them, they came to her house, dropped off a loaner, took her car, and swapped them back when they were done. I also took her car to get an oil chance once and they washed and vacuumed the car for me "for free". Compared to going to the Jeep dealership, I thought I was in customer service heaven.

I absolutely love the RC. I would honestly be kind of torn between an RC F or an M4. I mean, I'm sorry BMW but you do not have an ass like this:

The RX is pretty boring, but the 450h has a seriously surprising amount of pickup. I'll be driving it up to Vermont in a few weeks and I was considering an Oppo review. It really is a good car... It's just not fun to drive.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:02

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MKT THEN!

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 12/10/2014 at 11:03

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this will not be my car, the color must be either black, silver or dark blue

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:04

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Yeah ALL Lincolns. don't forget about the MKX and the MKT.

ATS is a great option

Hiroku > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:05

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TBH I think the V60 fits your description perfectly. Never driven the Polestar, so can't say much for driving dynamics/fun, but nothing is more comfortable than a Volvo for long trips. Maintenance is reasonable and reliability is very good, too. Are looks really that important for your partner?

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:05

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Okay

Stupidru > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:06

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You're kind of in the same boat as I am, except with a much larger budget.

A Volvo V70R is my 'perfect' vehicle but you want new, so a V60 R-Design would fit the bill nicely. I also considered the following:

CTS Wagon

Flex Ecoboost (or Taurus SHO if you want a sedan)

As long as we're talking sedans, I just purchased an Acura TL so the TLX might be a good bet

CPO BMW wagons (I now see that you're vetoing any BMWs- good man!)

Golf R

Touareg TDI

or the new TDI Golf wagon

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:09

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300?

Milky > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:11

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I saw your no american comment but I still have to put this.

485 motha-fuckin-HP! and the interior is way better now.

Also if you get it in a dark color it hides the double headlight thing.

(I'd bet you get a year old 350 F-sport for under $40k and its a lexus so its not going to break anytime soon).

Funktheduck > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:12

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Before my joke post I was gonna suggest the flex. I've heard good things about them.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 12/10/2014 at 11:20

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Interesting I will add this to the finalists

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:20

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I didn't say you should get it, just that it is available with a transmission other than a CVT.

punkgoose17 > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:21

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Do you want the rear seats heated too? The Lincoln MKZ with the Reserve equipment group has heated front seats, rear seats, and steering wheel. I've had a hard time finding heated rear seats under $40k.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Funktheduck 12/10/2014 at 11:21

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I know, and I would absolutely buy one, but the wife thinks they are too ugly.

Pros: good gas mileage

easy maintenance

great power

great space

great quality and value for money

cons:

looks (to her )

Funktheduck > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:23

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The style can be polarizing. My mom loves them but my stepdad hates them. Is it something that could grow on her with a test drive. I would be willing to drive an ugly car if it checked all my boxes otherwise

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen 12/10/2014 at 11:24

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Hmm I like that second blue. added to finalists

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > spanfucker retire bitch 12/10/2014 at 11:25

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50k is too much for my price range and for a Hyundai

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) 12/10/2014 at 11:26

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I agree the RC coupe in general (even the base model) has a better presence than the M4. I'm sur eint he next few years they will refine the front end and it will look much better.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Milky 12/10/2014 at 11:29

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Must have 4 doors. And the beltline on the challenger, charger, and 300 would make it vrey difficult for my 5'2" wife to drive. Greenhouse is a rare item these days, just consider how much greenhouse she has in the LR. 2-3 ft in some places

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Stupidru 12/10/2014 at 11:31

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I love love love M series BMW's but we need a family car and basically something for her that will last, she is very good on taking care of things so I have no doubt whatever we get so long as it is warranteed it will last 10-15 years. Maybe then I can purchase an e39 M5 and restore it.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Hiroku 12/10/2014 at 11:32

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Sadly, yes. Alas, she is a Mac and Apple product user...

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > punkgoose17 12/10/2014 at 11:32

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No probably just front seats. But I guess our little Chihuahua would be more likely to stay in the backseat if it were heated.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Funktheduck 12/10/2014 at 11:35

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Maybe, I will of course be gen-ing up a finalists list at the end of the day and then running them all by her. Then we will make selections based on user forum reviews and then test drive our top picks. I am suddenly getting the idea for a March-Madness style finalists bracket.

^I'm going to build this up: Sub $40k mid-size luxury vehicle Championships.

spanfucker retire bitch > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:42

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Well like I said, 50K is just with all of the options. Like, literally a fully loaded everything. So just don't get all the options.

But if you don't want a Hyundai, that's one thing.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > spanfucker retire bitch 12/10/2014 at 11:47

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I am not aversed to a Hyundai, but 50k is too much for even the best Hyundai. Their past transgressions of the automotive variety have put them in a situation where they need to reassess their vehicle pricing.

Milky > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:52

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YOU DIDNT SAY 4 DOOR. But okay …. last thought I have.

Starts at $37k and the "premium" model is $40k.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Milky 12/10/2014 at 11:54

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But...but...Nissan Intl is here in Franklin, TN (literally 1/4 mile from my doorstep) and they are seriously ugly and Vettel isn't their performance director anymore

Milky > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 11:59

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Always so difficult

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Milky 12/10/2014 at 12:00

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You know me so well. And by the way you should ad a "swag" caption to every time he steps to each side.

punkgoose17 > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 12:00

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If only the front seats need to be warmed you can get an Infiniti Q40, RWD, leather heated seats, moon roof, and Navigation Plus Package with MRSP and Delivery under $40k.

Yossarian > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 14:55

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Ok, so you've stated no German, no American. So Japanese is your choice. Just get an Acura or Lexus if you want a luxury car.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Yossarian 12/10/2014 at 15:11

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I did not rule American cars at all, see the ATS/CTS and Ford/Lincoln suggestions. German makes, no mater how much I like them for the dynamics of driving are going to prove to be expensive to maintain over an extended period of ownership. The goal is for this brand new/extremely lightly used car to last at least 10-15 years. With a German car, that would most likely require paying double the original cost, when ou include maintenance.

Yossarian > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 12/10/2014 at 15:24

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So even with that said, for a car you want to last 10-15 years I'd still go with Japanese. ATS/CTS have relatively new turbo engines that have yet to be tested in their longevity, same with Ford/Lincoln with the 3.5 Ecoboost, if you want a Flex or MKS. Infiniti/Acura/Lexus all have V6 engines that have been in service for at least a decade in one form or another and have proven to be reliable. I'd stay away from anything with forced induction if you want reliability over a decade.

I'd still pick a TLX, it has AWD with the V6, under $40k, will be more fun than the bigger MKS or Flex but still bigger than the ATS or Lexus IS, more reliable than an ATS, and personally think has more of a "luxury brand" image than Lincoln/Ford.